Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

Way Back Jack wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:27:48 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> wrote:
>
> >> >The ruthless are slowly being gathered up and imprisoned/killed by
> >> >civilization. My society will just be the next step in that.
> >>
> >> They're slowly being gathered up and replaced by the new ruthless who
> >> will otherwise emulate the old ruthless.
> >----------------------------
> >Not supported by history. The crimes of old are mostly eliminated.
>
> All of America's history shows the quest for more materialism and the
> good life.
-----------------
By the rich for themselves.
But the rest of us sought increase for all of us.

> Cites to the contrary?
--------------------------
Democracy, leading to:
Public schools, public power companies, public water companies, public
health organizations, public hospitals, etc.

> >> >> >> And nothing will change.
> >> >> >--------------------
> >> >> >Those who imagine the world is the same as it always was
> >> >> >ignore the lessons of history.
> >> >>
> >> >> Wanting the best that life has to offer is ingrained in all normal
> >> >> people.
> >> >---------------
> >> >Wanting the best for everyone is inborn. Wanting it only for yourself
> >> >is a distortion of normal human response caused by early childhood
> >> >abuse.
> >>
> >> Then 99+% of humanity must have been abused.
> >--------------------------
> >A majority were, to different degrees, but that is where the mistaken
> >notions arise. They can be eliminated.
> >Steve
>
> People keep demanding more materialism, more wealth, more luxury.
>
> And I say, more power to them.
-------------------------
Sure they are, but together, for everyone.
Steve

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Jack · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:37:08 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:35:19 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Way Back Jack wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:54:49 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> New-Home Sales in U.S. Increase 2.6% to 858,000 Pace (Update3)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> By Courtney Schlisserman
>> >> >------------------------------
>> >> >And now their financing is collapsing on those young fools due to
>> >> >phony low-interest loans that get cranked up by the criminals!
>> >>
>> >> "Young fools" in America have always had problems but they keep coming
>> >> and surviving and growing old .... and spitting at those who suggest
>> >> communism.
>> >-------------------
>> >No, that's only recent. Americans 400 years ago were all communist.
>> >They will be again soon.
>>
>> They're all dead, last I heard.
>-------------------------
>That wasn't why.

Huh?

>
>> >> Don't see too many of them trying to go elsewhere vis-a-vis those
>> >> elsewhere trying to get in here.
>> >---------------------
>> >That's because of wealth, not politics. And the wealth is illusory,
>> >the rich only use it to attract more slaves, they don't ever bestow
>> >it on the newbies. They lie, like you lie, you shitty little racist.
>>
>> The slaves love it; they keep a comin'.
>--------------------------
>Then they'll kill the rich and take over.

They'll strive to be rich and some will succeed.

And nothing will change.

Way Back Jack · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:01:10 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

>Jack wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:37:08 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Way Back Jack wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:35:19 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Way Back Jack wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:54:49 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> New-Home Sales in U.S. Increase 2.6% to 858,000 Pace (Update3)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> By Courtney Schlisserman
>> >> >> >------------------------------
>> >> >> >And now their financing is collapsing on those young fools due to
>> >> >> >phony low-interest loans that get cranked up by the criminals!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Young fools" in America have always had problems but they keep coming
>> >> >> and surviving and growing old .... and spitting at those who suggest
>> >> >> communism.
>> >> >-------------------
>> >> >No, that's only recent. Americans 400 years ago were all communist.
>> >> >They will be again soon.
>> >>
>> >> They're all dead, last I heard.
>> >-------------------------
>> >That wasn't why.
>>
>> Huh?
>>
>> >
>> >> >> Don't see too many of them trying to go elsewhere vis-a-vis those
>> >> >> elsewhere trying to get in here.
>> >> >---------------------
>> >> >That's because of wealth, not politics. And the wealth is illusory,
>> >> >the rich only use it to attract more slaves, they don't ever bestow
>> >> >it on the newbies. They lie, like you lie, you shitty little racist.
>> >>
>> >> The slaves love it; they keep a comin'.
>> >--------------------------
>> >Then they'll kill the rich and take over.
>>
>> They'll strive to be rich and some will succeed.
>------------------------
>They'll strive to overcome oppression and will organize.

The most ruthless will become rich and enjoy the good life, just as
today's rich have done.
>
>> And nothing will change.
>--------------------
>Those who imagine the world is the same as it always was
>ignore the lessons of history.

Wanting the best that life has to offer is ingrained in all normal
people.

Way Back Jack · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:16:48 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:01:10 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Jack wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:37:08 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Way Back Jack wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:35:19 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Way Back Jack wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:54:49 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> New-Home Sales in U.S. Increase 2.6% to 858,000 Pace (Update3)
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> By Courtney Schlisserman
>> >> >> >> >------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >And now their financing is collapsing on those young fools due to
>> >> >> >> >phony low-interest loans that get cranked up by the criminals!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Young fools" in America have always had problems but they keep coming
>> >> >> >> and surviving and growing old .... and spitting at those who suggest
>> >> >> >> communism.
>> >> >> >-------------------
>> >> >> >No, that's only recent. Americans 400 years ago were all communist.
>> >> >> >They will be again soon.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> They're all dead, last I heard.
>> >> >-------------------------
>> >> >That wasn't why.
>> >>
>> >> Huh?
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> Don't see too many of them trying to go elsewhere vis-a-vis those
>> >> >> >> elsewhere trying to get in here.
>> >> >> >---------------------
>> >> >> >That's because of wealth, not politics. And the wealth is illusory,
>> >> >> >the rich only use it to attract more slaves, they don't ever bestow
>> >> >> >it on the newbies. They lie, like you lie, you shitty little racist.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The slaves love it; they keep a comin'.
>> >> >--------------------------
>> >> >Then they'll kill the rich and take over.
>> >>
>> >> They'll strive to be rich and some will succeed.
>> >------------------------
>> >They'll strive to overcome oppression and will organize.
>>
>> The most ruthless will become rich and enjoy the good life, just as
>> today's rich have done.
>------------------------
>The ruthless are slowly being gathered up and imprisoned/killed by
>civilization. My society will just be the next step in that.

They're slowly being gathered up and replaced by the new ruthless who
will otherwise emulate the old ruthless.

>
>> >> And nothing will change.
>> >--------------------
>> >Those who imagine the world is the same as it always was
>> >ignore the lessons of history.
>>
>> Wanting the best that life has to offer is ingrained in all normal
>> people.
>---------------
>Wanting the best for everyone is inborn. Wanting it only for yourself
>is a distortion of normal human response caused by early childhood
>abuse.

Then 99+% of humanity must have been abused.

Way Back Jack · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:27:48 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:16:48 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Way Back Jack wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:01:10 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Jack wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:37:08 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Way Back Jack wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:35:19 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >Way Back Jack wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:54:49 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> New-Home Sales in U.S. Increase 2.6% to 858,000 Pace (Update3)
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> By Courtney Schlisserman
>> >> >> >> >> >------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >> >And now their financing is collapsing on those young fools due to
>> >> >> >> >> >phony low-interest loans that get cranked up by the criminals!
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Young fools" in America have always had problems but they keep coming
>> >> >> >> >> and surviving and growing old .... and spitting at those who suggest
>> >> >> >> >> communism.
>> >> >> >> >-------------------
>> >> >> >> >No, that's only recent. Americans 400 years ago were all communist.
>> >> >> >> >They will be again soon.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> They're all dead, last I heard.
>> >> >> >-------------------------
>> >> >> >That wasn't why.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Huh?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Don't see too many of them trying to go elsewhere vis-a-vis those
>> >> >> >> >> elsewhere trying to get in here.
>> >> >> >> >---------------------
>> >> >> >> >That's because of wealth, not politics. And the wealth is illusory,
>> >> >> >> >the rich only use it to attract more slaves, they don't ever bestow
>> >> >> >> >it on the newbies. They lie, like you lie, you shitty little racist.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The slaves love it; they keep a comin'.
>> >> >> >--------------------------
>> >> >> >Then they'll kill the rich and take over.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> They'll strive to be rich and some will succeed.
>> >> >------------------------
>> >> >They'll strive to overcome oppression and will organize.
>> >>
>> >> The most ruthless will become rich and enjoy the good life, just as
>> >> today's rich have done.
>> >------------------------
>> >The ruthless are slowly being gathered up and imprisoned/killed by
>> >civilization. My society will just be the next step in that.
>>
>> They're slowly being gathered up and replaced by the new ruthless who
>> will otherwise emulate the old ruthless.
>----------------------------
>Not supported by history. The crimes of old are mostly eliminated.

Well supported by reality.

All of America's history shows the quest for more materialism and the
good life.

Cites to the contrary?

>
>> >> >> And nothing will change.
>> >> >--------------------
>> >> >Those who imagine the world is the same as it always was
>> >> >ignore the lessons of history.
>> >>
>> >> Wanting the best that life has to offer is ingrained in all normal
>> >> people.
>> >---------------
>> >Wanting the best for everyone is inborn. Wanting it only for yourself
>> >is a distortion of normal human response caused by early childhood
>> >abuse.
>>
>> Then 99+% of humanity must have been abused.
>--------------------------
>A majority were, to different degrees, but that is where the mistaken
>notions arise. They can be eliminated.
>Steve

People keep demanding more materialism, more wealth, more luxury.

And I say, more power to them.

Way Back Jack · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:57:06 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:27:48 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> >The ruthless are slowly being gathered up and imprisoned/killed by
>> >> >civilization. My society will just be the next step in that.
>> >>
>> >> They're slowly being gathered up and replaced by the new ruthless who
>> >> will otherwise emulate the old ruthless.
>> >----------------------------
>> >Not supported by history. The crimes of old are mostly eliminated.
>>
>> All of America's history shows the quest for more materialism and the
>> good life.
>-----------------
>By the rich for themselves.
>But the rest of us sought increase for all of us.

To increase to the maximum intent possible.

Human nature.

>
>> Cites to the contrary?
>--------------------------
>Democracy, leading to:
>Public schools,

With fat & corrupt administrators and union leaders.

> public power companies, public water companies, public
>health organizations, public hospitals, etc.

With fat & corrupt CEOs and other executive officers
>
>> >> >> >> And nothing will change.
>> >> >> >--------------------
>> >> >> >Those who imagine the world is the same as it always was
>> >> >> >ignore the lessons of history.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Wanting the best that life has to offer is ingrained in all normal
>> >> >> people.
>> >> >---------------
>> >> >Wanting the best for everyone is inborn. Wanting it only for yourself
>> >> >is a distortion of normal human response caused by early childhood
>> >> >abuse.
>> >>
>> >> Then 99+% of humanity must have been abused.
>> >--------------------------
>> >A majority were, to different degrees, but that is where the mistaken
>> >notions arise. They can be eliminated.
>> >Steve
>>
>> People keep demanding more materialism, more wealth, more luxury.
>>
>> And I say, more power to them.
>-------------------------
>Sure they are, but together, for everyone.

People don't care about "everyone."

If others have less, they will have more.

Fact is: You're too incompetent and/or lazy to compete; hence you want
a piece of what others have earned.

Everytime you whine about a landlord, someone else is thinking "Hmmm
how can I become a fat, prosperous landlord?"

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

toto wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:35:19 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> wrote:
>
> > Americans 400 years ago were all communist. They will be
> >again soon.
>
> The particular pilgrims were only one colony and... communism
> failed (whether because of human nature or some other thing, we
> have no real idea)
---------------------
Those were Europeans, not Americans, honky.
Steve

toto · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2581

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:35:19 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

> Americans 400 years ago were all communist. They will be
>again soon.

The particular pilgrims were only one colony and... communism
failed (whether because of human nature or some other thing, we
have no real idea)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285981/posts

The pilgrims may have started as *communists,* but the colony would
not have survived if they had continued in this manner.

Property in Plymouth Colony, he observed, was communally owned and
cultivated. This system (“taking away of property and bringing [it]
into a commonwealth”) bred “confusion and discontent” and “retarded
much employment that would have been to [the settlers’] benefit and
comfort.”

The most able and fit young men in Plymouth thought it an “injustice”
that they were paid the same as those “not able to do a quarter the
other could.” Women, meanwhile, viewed the communal chores they were
required to perform for others as a form of “slavery.”

On the brink of extermination, the Colony’s leaders changed course and
allotted a parcel of land to each settler, hoping the private
ownership of farmland would encourage self-sufficiency and lead to the
cultivation of more corn and other foodstuffs.

--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..

The Outer Limits

Jamie Brinkoeter · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message @armory.com...
> toto wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:35:19 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Americans 400 years ago were all communist. They will be
>> >again soon.
>>
>> The particular pilgrims were only one colony and... communism
>> failed (whether because of human nature or some other thing, we
>> have no real idea)
> ---------------------
> Those were Europeans, not Americans, honky.
> Steve
>
>
So you're talking about the Native Americans being communist, is that right?

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

Jamie Brinkoeter wrote:
>
> "R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
> @armory.com...
> > toto wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:35:19 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Americans 400 years ago were all communist. They will be
> >> >again soon.
> >>
> >> The particular pilgrims were only one colony and... communism
> >> failed (whether because of human nature or some other thing, we
> >> have no real idea)
> > ---------------------
> > Those were Europeans, not Americans, honky.
> > Steve
> >
> >
> So you're talking about the Native Americans being communist, is that right?
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Duh!

Lemme guess, now you're going to try to lie about them too!
Steve