Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons

Anim8rFSK · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 6

In article ,
"Arthur Lipscomb" wrote:

> It must be.
> I live in Santa Clara County where (according to a quick internet search),
> the median income for a household is $74,335, and the median income for a
> family is $81,717.

I must be missing some fine distinction, but what's the difference
between a household and a family?

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Marie · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 129

"Arthur Lipscomb" wrote in message @comcast.com...
> In the city I live in you'd need about $1000 a month just for a small one
> bedroom apartment. I was talking to a relative who lives in another state
> a few weeks ago and was amazed that she could rent a large house for about
> $500 a month.

Yeah rent is like that here also. It varies, whether it's rural or suburban,
what neighborhood and whether it's in a large city. But our rent for a 3
bedroom now is $450, and we're in the process of buying a home.

> I think most people tend to spend what they make. So someone earning
> $20,000 a year is spending $20,000 a year without much left over and
> someone earning $80,000 a year is also spending $80,000 a year without
> much left over. A person making $80,000 is not going to live the
> lifestyle of a person making $20,000 and pocket the rest. Personally, as
> my income has gone up so has my spending.

Well that seems silly to me, to spend it just 'cause ya got it. I try to
teach my children not to live that type of lifestyle. We've been able to
have the things we have by not spending more than we needed to on bills and
groceries. That way, the extra adds up and over time it turns into a week at
the beach, a day at the zoo, Christmas,... And I actually know many people
who live this way- not overspending.
Of course, once our income got to where we weren't strictly living on each
dollar, we were able to put the kids in art classes, dance, soccer, whatever
they are interested in. So looking over what I just wrote, we are actually
overspending, but to me it's for a good reason, educational and physical,
not to have the coolest clothes and have my hair and nails done which I
think are absolutely stupid things to waste money on.

> But what does any of this have to do with Alec Baldwin?

I don't know, I guess nothing, but this is what I felt like responding to.
Marie

RogerM · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

Marie wrote:
>
> $80K/yr in my area is definately wealthy. When most people around me are
> making $20-30K, $80 is definately high-livin'.
> Marie

That's for the whole family, not one person.

Arthur Lipscomb · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

"Marie" wrote in message $sh4$1@news04.infoave.net...
> "Arthur Lipscomb" wrote in message
> @comcast.com...
>> In the city I live in you'd need about $1000 a month just for a small one
>> bedroom apartment. I was talking to a relative who lives in another
>> state a few weeks ago and was amazed that she could rent a large house
>> for about $500 a month.
>
> Yeah rent is like that here also. It varies, whether it's rural or
> suburban, what neighborhood and whether it's in a large city. But our rent
> for a 3 bedroom now is $450, and we're in the process of buying a home.

I really don't want to hear anymore about how much cheaper it is to live
everywhere else. Sad

>
>> I think most people tend to spend what they make. So someone earning
>> $20,000 a year is spending $20,000 a year without much left over and
>> someone earning $80,000 a year is also spending $80,000 a year without
>> much left over. A person making $80,000 is not going to live the
>> lifestyle of a person making $20,000 and pocket the rest. Personally, as
>> my income has gone up so has my spending.
>
> Well that seems silly to me, to spend it just 'cause ya got it. I try to
> teach my children not to live that type of lifestyle. We've been able to
> have the things we have by not spending more than we needed to on bills
> and groceries. That way, the extra adds up and over time it turns into a
> week at the beach, a day at the zoo, Christmas,... And I actually know
> many people who live this way- not overspending.
> Of course, once our income got to where we weren't strictly living on each
> dollar, we were able to put the kids in art classes, dance, soccer,
> whatever they are interested in. So looking over what I just wrote, we are
> actually overspending, but to me it's for a good reason, educational and
> physical, not to have the coolest clothes and have my hair and nails done
> which I think are absolutely stupid things to waste money on.

Somewhere out there there's someone living on $10,000 a year who would say
it's foolsing to waste money on art classes, dance, etc. It's all relative.

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>
> "Marie" wrote in message
> $sh4$1@news04.infoave.net...
> > "Arthur Lipscomb" wrote in message
> > @comcast.com...
> >> In the city I live in you'd need about $1000 a month just for a small one
> >> bedroom apartment. I was talking to a relative who lives in another
> >> state a few weeks ago and was amazed that she could rent a large house
> >> for about $500 a month.
> >
> > Yeah rent is like that here also. It varies, whether it's rural or
> > suburban, what neighborhood and whether it's in a large city. But our rent
> > for a 3 bedroom now is $450, and we're in the process of buying a home.
>
> I really don't want to hear anymore about how much cheaper it is to live
> everywhere else. Sad

>
> >
> >> I think most people tend to spend what they make. So someone earning
> >> $20,000 a year is spending $20,000 a year without much left over and
> >> someone earning $80,000 a year is also spending $80,000 a year without
> >> much left over. A person making $80,000 is not going to live the
> >> lifestyle of a person making $20,000 and pocket the rest. Personally, as
> >> my income has gone up so has my spending.
> >
> > Well that seems silly to me, to spend it just 'cause ya got it. I try to
> > teach my children not to live that type of lifestyle. We've been able to
> > have the things we have by not spending more than we needed to on bills
> > and groceries. That way, the extra adds up and over time it turns into a
> > week at the beach, a day at the zoo, Christmas,... And I actually know
> > many people who live this way- not overspending.
> > Of course, once our income got to where we weren't strictly living on each
> > dollar, we were able to put the kids in art classes, dance, soccer,
> > whatever they are interested in. So looking over what I just wrote, we are
> > actually overspending, but to me it's for a good reason, educational and
> > physical, not to have the coolest clothes and have my hair and nails done
> > which I think are absolutely stupid things to waste money on.
>
> Somewhere out there there's someone living on $10,000 a year who would say
> it's foolsing to waste money on art classes, dance, etc. It's all relative.
-------------------
No it's not. He HAS to spend the $10K to LIVE, the $80K is spent as
LUXURY income. And $80K is derived by DEPRIVING ANOTHER hard working
family of it for NO HONEST REASON!!
Steve

Anim8rFSK · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 6

In article , Buster
wrote:

> On 2007-04-20 09:47:21 -0500, here@home.net (Way Back Jack) said:
>
> > 411: Caught on Tape: Alec Baldwin Calls Daughter a 'Rude, Thoughtless
> > Pig'
> > Friday, April 20, 2007
> >
> > By Roger Friedman
> >
> > Actor Alec Baldwin may be finding himself in very big trouble this
> > morning. I mean, big trouble.
>
>
> Kim Bassinger is probably in more trouble with the court for releasing
> the VM to the media. Nice parenting skills.

You know, I don't know how she COULD be, unless the court heard it
FIRST, and told her not to release it, and she did anyway.

If she was smart, she gave it to somebody else BEFORE the judge ever
heard it.

Buster · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

On 2007-04-20 09:47:21 -0500, here@home.net (Way Back Jack) said:

> 411: Caught on Tape: Alec Baldwin Calls Daughter a 'Rude, Thoughtless
> Pig'
> Friday, April 20, 2007
>
> By Roger Friedman
>
> Actor Alec Baldwin may be finding himself in very big trouble this
> morning. I mean, big trouble.

Kim Bassinger is probably in more trouble with the court for releasing
the VM to the media. Nice parenting skills.

toto · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2581

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:33:35 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

>I don't see any of the above, even in the expensive places, even
>near to being over $80K. Close, but no cigar. And whether it is
>$80K everywhere is quite irrelevant. It would be most places,
>and I gave only one figure.
>Steve

Half of the incomes are above the median and half below. Thus
if the median is $55,000 there are bound to be incomes well above
and well below that.

I didn't think I needed to lecture you about the difference between a
mean value and a median value.

--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..

The Outer Limits

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

toto wrote:
>
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:33:35 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> wrote:
>
> >I don't see any of the above, even in the expensive places, even
> >near to being over $80K. Close, but no cigar. And whether it is
> >$80K everywhere is quite irrelevant. It would be most places,
> >and I gave only one figure.
> >Steve
>
> Half of the incomes are above the median and half below. Thus
> if the median is $55,000 there are bound to be incomes well above
> and well below that.
>
> I didn't think I needed to lecture you about the difference between a
> mean value and a median value.
>
> --
> Dorothy
--------------------------
As I said, less than half the people are keeping more than the other
half of people in chains, economically. We need to use Democratic
Power to end that forcibly. Whether the median is $80K here or there
or $100K someplace else is irrelevant. And yes, I know the difference
between median and average.
Steve

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

Way Back Jack wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:54:49 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> wrote:
>
> >> New-Home Sales in U.S. Increase 2.6% to 858,000 Pace (Update3)
> >>
> >> By Courtney Schlisserman
> >------------------------------
> >And now their financing is collapsing on those young fools due to
> >phony low-interest loans that get cranked up by the criminals!
>
> "Young fools" in America have always had problems but they keep coming
> and surviving and growing old .... and spitting at those who suggest
> communism.
-------------------
No, that's only recent. Americans 400 years ago were all communist.
They will be again soon.

> Don't see too many of them trying to go elsewhere vis-a-vis those
> elsewhere trying to get in here.
---------------------
That's because of wealth, not politics. And the wealth is illusory,
the rich only use it to attract more slaves, they don't ever bestow
it on the newbies. They lie, like you lie, you shitty little racist.
Steve

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

Way Back Jack wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:35:19 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> wrote:
>
> >Way Back Jack wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:54:49 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> New-Home Sales in U.S. Increase 2.6% to 858,000 Pace (Update3)
> >> >>
> >> >> By Courtney Schlisserman
> >> >------------------------------
> >> >And now their financing is collapsing on those young fools due to
> >> >phony low-interest loans that get cranked up by the criminals!
> >>
> >> "Young fools" in America have always had problems but they keep coming
> >> and surviving and growing old .... and spitting at those who suggest
> >> communism.
> >-------------------
> >No, that's only recent. Americans 400 years ago were all communist.
> >They will be again soon.
>
> They're all dead, last I heard.
-------------------------
That wasn't why.

> >> Don't see too many of them trying to go elsewhere vis-a-vis those
> >> elsewhere trying to get in here.
> >---------------------
> >That's because of wealth, not politics. And the wealth is illusory,
> >the rich only use it to attract more slaves, they don't ever bestow
> >it on the newbies. They lie, like you lie, you shitty little racist.
>
> The slaves love it; they keep a comin'.
--------------------------
Then they'll kill the rich and take over.
Steve

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

Jack wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:37:08 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> wrote:
>
> >Way Back Jack wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:35:19 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Way Back Jack wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:54:49 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >> New-Home Sales in U.S. Increase 2.6% to 858,000 Pace (Update3)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> By Courtney Schlisserman
> >> >> >------------------------------
> >> >> >And now their financing is collapsing on those young fools due to
> >> >> >phony low-interest loans that get cranked up by the criminals!
> >> >>
> >> >> "Young fools" in America have always had problems but they keep coming
> >> >> and surviving and growing old .... and spitting at those who suggest
> >> >> communism.
> >> >-------------------
> >> >No, that's only recent. Americans 400 years ago were all communist.
> >> >They will be again soon.
> >>
> >> They're all dead, last I heard.
> >-------------------------
> >That wasn't why.
>
> Huh?
>
> >
> >> >> Don't see too many of them trying to go elsewhere vis-a-vis those
> >> >> elsewhere trying to get in here.
> >> >---------------------
> >> >That's because of wealth, not politics. And the wealth is illusory,
> >> >the rich only use it to attract more slaves, they don't ever bestow
> >> >it on the newbies. They lie, like you lie, you shitty little racist.
> >>
> >> The slaves love it; they keep a comin'.
> >--------------------------
> >Then they'll kill the rich and take over.
>
> They'll strive to be rich and some will succeed.
------------------------
They'll strive to overcome oppression and will organize.

> And nothing will change.
--------------------
Those who imagine the world is the same as it always was
ignore the lessons of history.
Steve

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

Way Back Jack wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:01:10 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> wrote:
>
> >Jack wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:37:08 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Way Back Jack wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:35:19 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Way Back Jack wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:54:49 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> New-Home Sales in U.S. Increase 2.6% to 858,000 Pace (Update3)
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> By Courtney Schlisserman
> >> >> >> >------------------------------
> >> >> >> >And now their financing is collapsing on those young fools due to
> >> >> >> >phony low-interest loans that get cranked up by the criminals!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Young fools" in America have always had problems but they keep coming
> >> >> >> and surviving and growing old .... and spitting at those who suggest
> >> >> >> communism.
> >> >> >-------------------
> >> >> >No, that's only recent. Americans 400 years ago were all communist.
> >> >> >They will be again soon.
> >> >>
> >> >> They're all dead, last I heard.
> >> >-------------------------
> >> >That wasn't why.
> >>
> >> Huh?
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> >> Don't see too many of them trying to go elsewhere vis-a-vis those
> >> >> >> elsewhere trying to get in here.
> >> >> >---------------------
> >> >> >That's because of wealth, not politics. And the wealth is illusory,
> >> >> >the rich only use it to attract more slaves, they don't ever bestow
> >> >> >it on the newbies. They lie, like you lie, you shitty little racist.
> >> >>
> >> >> The slaves love it; they keep a comin'.
> >> >--------------------------
> >> >Then they'll kill the rich and take over.
> >>
> >> They'll strive to be rich and some will succeed.
> >------------------------
> >They'll strive to overcome oppression and will organize.
>
> The most ruthless will become rich and enjoy the good life, just as
> today's rich have done.
------------------------
The ruthless are slowly being gathered up and imprisoned/killed by
civilization. My society will just be the next step in that.

> >> And nothing will change.
> >--------------------
> >Those who imagine the world is the same as it always was
> >ignore the lessons of history.
>
> Wanting the best that life has to offer is ingrained in all normal
> people.
---------------
Wanting the best for everyone is inborn. Wanting it only for yourself
is a distortion of normal human response caused by early childhood
abuse.
Steve

Way Back Jack · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:35:19 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

>Way Back Jack wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:54:49 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> New-Home Sales in U.S. Increase 2.6% to 858,000 Pace (Update3)
>> >>
>> >> By Courtney Schlisserman
>> >------------------------------
>> >And now their financing is collapsing on those young fools due to
>> >phony low-interest loans that get cranked up by the criminals!
>>
>> "Young fools" in America have always had problems but they keep coming
>> and surviving and growing old .... and spitting at those who suggest
>> communism.
>-------------------
>No, that's only recent. Americans 400 years ago were all communist.
>They will be again soon.

They're all dead, last I heard.

>
>> Don't see too many of them trying to go elsewhere vis-a-vis those
>> elsewhere trying to get in here.
>---------------------
>That's because of wealth, not politics. And the wealth is illusory,
>the rich only use it to attract more slaves, they don't ever bestow
>it on the newbies. They lie, like you lie, you shitty little racist.

The slaves love it; they keep a comin'.

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

Way Back Jack wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:16:48 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> wrote:
>
> >Way Back Jack wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:01:10 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Jack wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:37:08 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Way Back Jack wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:35:19 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Way Back Jack wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:54:49 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> New-Home Sales in U.S. Increase 2.6% to 858,000 Pace (Update3)
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> By Courtney Schlisserman
> >> >> >> >> >------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >And now their financing is collapsing on those young fools due to
> >> >> >> >> >phony low-interest loans that get cranked up by the criminals!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Young fools" in America have always had problems but they keep coming
> >> >> >> >> and surviving and growing old .... and spitting at those who suggest
> >> >> >> >> communism.
> >> >> >> >-------------------
> >> >> >> >No, that's only recent. Americans 400 years ago were all communist.
> >> >> >> >They will be again soon.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> They're all dead, last I heard.
> >> >> >-------------------------
> >> >> >That wasn't why.
> >> >>
> >> >> Huh?
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Don't see too many of them trying to go elsewhere vis-a-vis those
> >> >> >> >> elsewhere trying to get in here.
> >> >> >> >---------------------
> >> >> >> >That's because of wealth, not politics. And the wealth is illusory,
> >> >> >> >the rich only use it to attract more slaves, they don't ever bestow
> >> >> >> >it on the newbies. They lie, like you lie, you shitty little racist.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The slaves love it; they keep a comin'.
> >> >> >--------------------------
> >> >> >Then they'll kill the rich and take over.
> >> >>
> >> >> They'll strive to be rich and some will succeed.
> >> >------------------------
> >> >They'll strive to overcome oppression and will organize.
> >>
> >> The most ruthless will become rich and enjoy the good life, just as
> >> today's rich have done.
> >------------------------
> >The ruthless are slowly being gathered up and imprisoned/killed by
> >civilization. My society will just be the next step in that.
>
> They're slowly being gathered up and replaced by the new ruthless who
> will otherwise emulate the old ruthless.
----------------------------
Not supported by history. The crimes of old are mostly eliminated.

> >> >> And nothing will change.
> >> >--------------------
> >> >Those who imagine the world is the same as it always was
> >> >ignore the lessons of history.
> >>
> >> Wanting the best that life has to offer is ingrained in all normal
> >> people.
> >---------------
> >Wanting the best for everyone is inborn. Wanting it only for yourself
> >is a distortion of normal human response caused by early childhood
> >abuse.
>
> Then 99+% of humanity must have been abused.
--------------------------
A majority were, to different degrees, but that is where the mistaken
notions arise. They can be eliminated.
Steve