Stephanie Wrote:
> "Doan" doan@usc.edu wrote in message
> @skat.usc.edu...-
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Stephanie wrote:
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> "Bible John" john.doggett@x-files.gov wrote in message
> @news.charter.net...-
> In article deqn8i$pu5$1@lenny.tc.umn.edu,
> Carlson LaVonne carls017@umn.edu wrote:
>
> Bible John,
>
> In 2005 teachers are still able to fully hit kids with no
> consequences
> in nearly half of the states.
>
>
> I see. In the film the PE teacher outright smacked the smart alek
> type
> girls. In my home state its illegal to spank kids.
>
> Whether or not teachers or education administrators can legally hit
> children is left to the states. In some states that had legally
> banned
> hitting of children by school personnel, there is a move to
> reinsitute
> the practice.
>
> Of course, parents are free to hit children in every state.
>
> LaVonne
>
> Except Oregon where spanking is banned. California will soon ban
> spanking as well. This is bad news, but a reality of the times.
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>
> It is pretty bad news that we actually have to make laws to protect
> small
> people from getting hit by big people who are supposed to love and
> care
> for
> them.
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> So what are the alternatives and how are they better?
>
> Doan
>
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>
> TEACH THEM you dumbass.


I am new here and was shocked to read such an uncouth response!
I live in Texas and in many school districts, children are spanked
simply because the teacher felt like it. Jefferson County, Beaumont
Texas, is one where in the Special Ed class, the teacher whipped kids
for being late to school (the bus was caught by a train), another time
this child was whipped for not eating his food, and another time for
not being able to complete the math worksheet.

What angered me most is that this child was in Special Ed and had a
Behavior Management Plan (BMP) that did not include corporal
punishment. This little boy already had serious issues with anxiety
and when told he would be spanked for not completing the math, after he
had asked for help, his anxiety went to an all-time high and he could
not do even the simplest of Math questions.

Growing up in private schools, during the 70's, I saw teachers abuse
the power to spank and explode into full blown beatings; never did the
teacher receive any form of discipline.

On another note:
What would you do if your child was taught at school that if mommy
raises her voice, spanks you, or makes you sit in time-out (often
requiring restraint), she is abusing you and it is illegal?

Seriously, this child is so out of control and mom has no clue what to
do with his newfound sense of power.
Prior to going into the store, mom told 9 year old child that he could
not buy a toy and they were not going to buy candy; only food.

Standing in the grocery store line last week, he ran off and picked out
a toy he wanted. Mom barely had money for groceries and told him to put
the toy back. He put it back and came back to her with another toy.
Again, she told him "no". He proceeds to call her an F***ing B**ch,
You Whore, and the expletives did not stop there!

Being in public, and terrified of CPS, mom was dumbfounded and although
she wanted to grab him up and bust his butt, she simply stood there and
took the verbal abuse. She was already in the process of checking out
at the store and couldn't just walk away from the grocery checker.

He learned to talk like this at school and while in foster care for the
previous 11 months.

Just curious: What would you recommend she do?


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