Could children be hit by teachers in the 70's?

Bible John · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 210

I saw a film that was made in 1976 and in it teachers were able to fully
hit HS kids with no consequences. Was this Hollywood, or could teachers
actually hit kids in these days?

Thanks,

John

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HCN · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 522

"Bible John" wrote in message @news.charter.net...
>I saw a film that was made in 1976 and in it teachers were able to fully
> hit HS kids with no consequences. Was this Hollywood, or could teachers
> actually hit kids in these days?
>
....

Yes. One school I went to in Texas had special paddles made.

Jeanne · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 226

Bible John wrote:
> I saw a film that was made in 1976 and in it teachers were able to fully
> hit HS kids with no consequences. Was this Hollywood, or could teachers
> actually hit kids in these days?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> John
>

1976 would be kind of late but paddling occurred in the late 60's and
early 70's in my school district

Jeanne

Carlson LaVonne · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 636

Bible John,

In 2005 teachers are still able to fully hit kids with no consequences
in nearly half of the states.

Whether or not teachers or education administrators can legally hit
children is left to the states. In some states that had legally banned
hitting of children by school personnel, there is a move to reinsitute
the practice.

Of course, parents are free to hit children in every state.

LaVonne

Bible John wrote:
> I saw a film that was made in 1976 and in it teachers were able to fully
> hit HS kids with no consequences. Was this Hollywood, or could teachers
> actually hit kids in these days?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> John
>

Bible John · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 210

In article ,
Carlson LaVonne wrote:

> Bible John,
>
> In 2005 teachers are still able to fully hit kids with no consequences
> in nearly half of the states.
>

I see. In the film the PE teacher outright smacked the smart alek type
girls. In my home state its illegal to spank kids.

> Whether or not teachers or education administrators can legally hit
> children is left to the states. In some states that had legally banned
> hitting of children by school personnel, there is a move to reinsitute
> the practice.
>
> Of course, parents are free to hit children in every state.
>
> LaVonne

Except Oregon where spanking is banned. California will soon ban
spanking as well. This is bad news, but a reality of the times.

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toypup · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1307

"HCN" wrote in message @comcast.com...
>
> "Bible John" wrote in message
> @news.charter.net...
>>I saw a film that was made in 1976 and in it teachers were able to fully
>> hit HS kids with no consequences. Was this Hollywood, or could teachers
>> actually hit kids in these days?
>>
> ...
>
> Yes. One school I went to in Texas had special paddles made.

I went to school in Texas and they had paddles, too. We shared a track with
either a high school or junior high or both, I can't remember. I do
remember a kid from on of those schools being paddled on the field, though.

-L. · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1335

Jeanne wrote:
>
> 1976 would be kind of late but paddling occurred in the late 60's and
> early 70's in my school district
>
> Jeanne

I was in Jr. high in 75-77 in Illinois and they still swatted kids
(with a paddle) then.

-L.

Mary_Gordon · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 409

I live in Ontario, and yup, it was still okay to "strap" kids back then
(I graduated from high school in 75).

I have vivid memories of a few teachers who were real sadists who would
beat kids for things they saw them doing outside school property and
outside school hours. Its a mine field - no way should adult authority
figures (particularly those outside the home) be permitted to raise a
hand to your children. I mean, seriously, can you imagine your BOSS
doing that to you for whatever transgression you are called on the
carpet for?

Oooh, late coming back from coffee break, oooh, smoking cigarettes in
the washroom, 10 wacks with a leather strap on your hand for you!

Mary G.

Jennie · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 20

> I mean, seriously, can you imagine your BOSS
> doing that to you for whatever transgression you
> are called on the carpet for?

Curiously enough, yes. The 'office cane' was in use on junior employees
in the 1920s. Regarding the original topic, I was caned on the bottom
at primary school in 1975, for picking up a smouldering cigarette butt
in the playground and pretending to smoke it.

Jennie

Doan · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1571

On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, dragonlady wrote:

> In article ,
> an588@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Catherine Woodgold) wrote:
>
> > Bible John (john.doggett@x-files.gov) writes:
> > > Except Oregon where spanking is banned. California will soon ban
> > > spanking as well. This is bad news, but a reality of the times.
> >
> > Why do you say this is bad news?
>
> I'm hopeing he means it's bad news that we would even HAVE to make a
> rule banning spanking . . .
> --
> Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care
>
It's bad news because often, the cure is worse than the disease.

Doan

Catherine Woodgold · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1506

Bible John (john.doggett@x-files.gov) writes:
> Except Oregon where spanking is banned. California will soon ban
> spanking as well. This is bad news, but a reality of the times.

Why do you say this is bad news? It sounds like good news
to me. Adults are legally protected from assault. It used
to be that prisoners, wives and employees could be hit;
now each of those groups is legally protected. Children
are the only humans not legally protected from being hit.
Extending this protection to children is a step forward.

Effect of the spanking ban in Sweden:

"Further, rates of child abuse appear to have declined; the number of
referrals to St. Gan's Hospital in Stockholm,
which receives all child maltreatment cases, had
declined by 1989 to one-sixth of the 1970 rate (Haeuser,
1988)."

excerpt from:
The Swedish Ban on Corporal Punishment:
Its History and Effects
Joan E. Durrant, PhD, Cpsych
From Family Violence Against Children: A Challenge for Society,
Walter de Gruyter & Co., Berlin, New York, 1996. (pp.19-25)

The whole article can be seen at:
http://www.nospank.net/durrant.htm
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dragonlady · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2193

In article ,
an588@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Catherine Woodgold) wrote:

> Bible John (john.doggett@x-files.gov) writes:
> > Except Oregon where spanking is banned. California will soon ban
> > spanking as well. This is bad news, but a reality of the times.
>
> Why do you say this is bad news?

I'm hopeing he means it's bad news that we would even HAVE to make a
rule banning spanking . . .
--
Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

Bible John wrote:
>
> I saw a film that was made in 1976 and in it teachers were able to fully
> hit HS kids with no consequences. Was this Hollywood, or could teachers
> actually hit kids in these days?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
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Yes, but it ended then because the students were turning on teachers
and beating them half to death. They wouldn't put up with it anymore.
Steve

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

-L. wrote:
>
> Jeanne wrote:
> >
> > 1976 would be kind of late but paddling occurred in the late 60's and
> > early 70's in my school district
> >
> > Jeanne
>
> I was in Jr. high in 75-77 in Illinois and they still swatted kids
> (with a paddle) then.
>
> -L.
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No, it was made illegal in Illinois in 1972.
Steve

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

Bible John wrote:
>
> In article ,
> Carlson LaVonne wrote:
>
> > Bible John,
> >
> > In 2005 teachers are still able to fully hit kids with no consequences
> > in nearly half of the states.
> >
>
> I see. In the film the PE teacher outright smacked the smart alek type
> girls. In my home state its illegal to spank kids.
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Films are FICTION, John! Geeeze!
Steve