Eavesdropping on your child is illegal!

RHF · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

BR,

Two Young Mothers with Children (both boys) who were both instructed
to start correcting their children at an early age to:
- Simply getting down at the Child's Level Face-to-Face.
- Zig the Child on the Wrist with One Finger
("Snapping" the Index Finger 'off' the Thumb).
- Next Holding the Index Finger Up to the Child's Face
(So that the Child Will "SEE" the Finger and FOCUS Their Eys On It.)
- Then Saying The Child's Name and the Word "NO" in a Firm Voice.
(So that the Child Will "HEAR" the Parents VOICE and FOCUS Their Ears
On It.)
The-Bottm-Line: FEEL (NOT PAIN & INJURY) + SEE + HEAR = REMEMBERING

One Young Mother followed the Advise and now that the Child is Three
Years Old
the Child often looks toward the Mother when it is about to do
something that
HE Knows is 'wrong' and the Mother simply Holds Up Her Finger and Says
"NO".
The Child "Accepts" the Parenting (Parental Control) of the Mother.

The other Young Mother did NOT followed the advise and now that the
Child
is Three Years Old the Child 'often' is SPANKED by the Mother.
This Child has NOT Learned to 'accept' the Parenting (Parental Control)
of the Mother.

Good Parenting Starts Early
- With Love for the Child, Their Safety and Well Being !
teach your children well ~ RHF
..
..

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DeWayne · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 7

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message @armory.com...
> Da-man wrote:
>
>> Bombs are ok?
> ------------
> Some.

So what bombs are ok genius?

Brian Running · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

> > Fair enough, and I agree - I know some similar situations, with good
> > caring parents who have always stressed reasonable discipline and
> > behavior
> -------------
> Then those are NOT "good and caring parents"!!!
>
> That's the POINT, that a LOT of what parents deem to be good, in fact
> what much of America imagines is good, IS ACTUALLY BAD, EVIL, CRUEL,
> ABUSIVE, and the KINDS of things that, IF THEY WERE DONE TO YOU NOW
> AS AN ADULT, WOULD RESULT IN YOU SEEKING TO KILL THE PERPETRATOR!!
> SO WHY IN THE FUCKING WORLD DO YOU IMAGINE YOUR KIDS ARE GOING TO
> LOVE YOU FOR THAT SORT OF ABUSE, THEY ARE NOT *AT ALL* DIFFERENT
> THAN *YOU* ARE!!!

Just wait, there, "R. Steve" -- someday maybe you'll have kids of your own.
Better to save your ranting and raving until you've got some experience in
the area.

> Total garbage, raised with appreciation and given their autonomy, kids
> virtually raise thremselves

Say no more! I read you loud and clear!

running dogg · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

Brian Running wrote:

> > I 'believe' the any Judge of any Court should NOT "Invent" the Law [.]
> > {Good Laws are 'founded' on Common Sense (Natural Law) - NOT Judicial
> > Fiat.}
>
> Then you'll agree with me -- in this case, the court had to find that there
> was a violation of Washington telecommunications laws and the Fourth
> Amendment. It had no choice. We don't want courts that can ignore the law
> whenever they feel like it. Change the law, if you don't like it.
>
> > Something-To-Think-About: This is NOT about the 'government' expanding
> > it's abilities to probe into the "Private Lives" of Citizens. This is
> > ABOUT Parents {Citizens} being able to Dutifully Raise, Protect and
> > Act Responsibilety for their 'minor' Children. The 'state' has a minor
> > role in the Home and the Primary Obligation and Authority Rest with the
> > Parents [.]
>
> You're wrong. This was a case in which evidence was excluded on the grounds
> that it was illegally obtained in violation of the Fourth Amendment. The
> government cannot convict you with illegal evidence. It's an "unreasonable
> search or seizure" to invade the privacy of someone's home or to eavesdrop
> in a place where a citizen has a reasonable expectation of privacy. If you
> think the court was wrong in this case, then that means you are in favor of
> the government being able to tap your phone and collect evidence against
> you. You didn't even read the synopsis of the case, did you?
>
> The internet has a powerful influence over some minds. If someone
> misinterprets something, or twists it to suit their agenda-of-the-day, and
> then posts it on the internet, millions will take it as truth, and get all
> excited about it, point to it as more evidence of the decline of
> civilization, without even thinking about it for as much as a second.

Amazing, isn't it? It's like the old chain message trick, when a verbal
message is passed from one person to another the 10th person will
inevitably hear a very different message than the 1st person. The
internet seems to work in the same way. Also, the internet seems to
bypass most people's bullshit detector, people who think long and hard
about the infotainment spewed by TV News will automatically believe
something posted anonymously to a newsgroup on the internet without a
second thought.
>
> Are you in favor of the government tapping your phone? Answer that simple
> question.

I DO know that Jefferson would be horrified at it.

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Brian Running · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

> I'm 54 years old and have a son, 31, and a daughter, 28,
> you shithead.

No, you're not. No 54-year-old parent, at least one that's not
institutionalized, would use the language that you do. You're a 19-year-old
failing college student.

RHF · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

RSW,

My My 'you' are a Angry [Little] Person.

Your Mother must have had a very difficult time "Potty Training" you
Surprised

)

..
oyhsfb ~ RHF
..
..

bpnjensen · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 7

Well, I've certainly been put in my place! Next time my child wants to
stay home from school for a month to watch the tube, play in the street
during rush hour or shoot dope, I will just let him do it, because
that's what friends are for, and parents should never interfere with
their childrens' freedom, no matter how ill-informed it may be!
Bruce Jensen

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

Brian Running wrote:
>
> > > Fair enough, and I agree - I know some similar situations, with good
> > > caring parents who have always stressed reasonable discipline and
> > > behavior
> > -------------
> > Then those are NOT "good and caring parents"!!!
> >
> > That's the POINT, that a LOT of what parents deem to be good, in fact
> > what much of America imagines is good, IS ACTUALLY BAD, EVIL, CRUEL,
> > ABUSIVE, and the KINDS of things that, IF THEY WERE DONE TO YOU NOW
> > AS AN ADULT, WOULD RESULT IN YOU SEEKING TO KILL THE PERPETRATOR!!
> > SO WHY IN THE FUCKING WORLD DO YOU IMAGINE YOUR KIDS ARE GOING TO
> > LOVE YOU FOR THAT SORT OF ABUSE, THEY ARE NOT *AT ALL* DIFFERENT
> > THAN *YOU* ARE!!!
>
> Just wait, there, "R. Steve" -- someday maybe you'll have kids of your own.
------------------
Another cum-wad with children someplace who thinks I'm his little
brother. I'm 54 years old and have a son, 31, and a daughter, 28,
you shithead.
Steve

R. Steve Walz · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1906

RHF wrote:
>
> BR,
>
> Two Young Mothers with Children (both boys) who were both instructed
> to start correcting their children at an early age to:
> - Simply getting down at the Child's Level Face-to-Face.
> - Zig the Child on the Wrist with One Finger
> ("Snapping" the Index Finger 'off' the Thumb).
> - Next Holding the Index Finger Up to the Child's Face
> (So that the Child Will "SEE" the Finger and FOCUS Their Eys On It.)
> - Then Saying The Child's Name and the Word "NO" in a Firm Voice.
> (So that the Child Will "HEAR" the Parents VOICE and FOCUS Their Ears
> On It.)
> The-Bottm-Line: FEEL (NOT PAIN & INJURY) + SEE + HEAR = REMEMBERING
>
> One Young Mother followed the Advise and now that the Child is Three
> Years Old
> the Child often looks toward the Mother when it is about to do
> something that
> HE Knows is 'wrong' and the Mother simply Holds Up Her Finger and Says
> "NO".
> The Child "Accepts" the Parenting (Parental Control) of the Mother.
>
> The other Young Mother did NOT followed the advise and now that the
> Child
> is Three Years Old the Child 'often' is SPANKED by the Mother.
> This Child has NOT Learned to 'accept' the Parenting (Parental Control)
> of the Mother.
>
> Good Parenting Starts Early
> - With Love for the Child, Their Safety and Well Being !
> teach your children well ~ RHF
--------------------------------
The above is a confabulated lie by a shithead who is writing a book
but has no kids of his own.
Steve

bpnjensen · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 7

I believe children should have bombs on the Fourth of July. I did! It
was fun! Smile

Bruce "ol' three-finger" Jensen

Da-man · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

"Brian Running" wrote in message $oA2.3438@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
>> IF he is using his rightful name, and IF he did publish any
>> works - which I doubt - he has thrown a huge cloud of controversy over
>> anything he may have written or stood for.
>
> http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/
>
> Be sure to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page, for more
> good-parenting tips.
>
>

I can hardly wait to see this!

DM

RHF · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

RSW,

"I told a teacher in 9th grade that if he touched me he wouldn't
survive."

If we are to 'believe' your statement; then you must believe you are
justified in Living your Life through Threat and Intimidation . . .
The Life of a "Bully".

Judging by 'your' Writing and the Tenor of your remarks here;
would, in general, reflect this assessment.
..
just and un-educated {guess} opinion ~ RHF
..
..

Tori M. · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 1153

"Brian Running" wrote in message $1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
>> I'm 54 years old and have a son, 31, and a daughter, 28,
>> you shithead.
>
> No, you're not. No 54-year-old parent, at least one that's not
> institutionalized, would use the language that you do. You're a
> 19-year-old
> failing college student.
>

Where do you figure that? I know plenty of people with more then 2 kids
that use language exactly like that.. now 1/2 of them I know would smack a
kid upside the head for using that same language and wonder where they
picked it up but Steve does not seem like one of them.. While I don't agree
with everything he says I don't take him for a liar..

Tori

--
Bonnie 3/20/02
Xavier 10/27/04

Brian Running · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

> IF he is using his rightful name, and IF he did publish any
> works - which I doubt - he has thrown a huge cloud of controversy over
> anything he may have written or stood for.

http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/

Be sure to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page, for more
good-parenting tips.

running dogg · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

RHF wrote:

> RSW,
>
> "I told a teacher in 9th grade that if he touched me he wouldn't
> survive."
>
> If we are to 'believe' your statement; then you must believe you are
> justified in Living your Life through Threat and Intimidation . . .
> The Life of a "Bully".
>
> Judging by 'your' Writing and the Tenor of your remarks here;
> would, in general, reflect this assessment.
> ..
> just and un-educated {guess} opinion ~ RHF
> ..
> ..
>

How did a discussion on parenting get crossposted from "misc.kids" and
"alt.parenting.solutions" to "rec.radio.shortwave"? Parents, if you
haven't seen some of these poster handles in your NG before, that's
because this discussion was crossposted to two rec.radio.* NGs,
shortwave and scanner. How it relates, I don't know. Please remove these
NGs (I'm sure "misc.consumers" would appreciate it too) from your rants
about parenting. Thanks.

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