Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan

JOHN · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 148

Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/2/14/why-vaccines-aren-t-safe.aspx

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Jeff · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 582

JOHN wrote:
> Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/2/14/why-vaccines-aren-t-safe.aspx

IMHO, Mercola is a scuzbucket.

And the page is inaccurate. For example, it states that vaccines are
immune suppressing. That is false. If you think that helping the immune
system to recognize deadly germs so that it won't allow those organisms
to reproduce is weakening the immune system, then you're an idiot.

For accurate info on vaccines, go to www.cdc.gov.

Jeff

D. C. Sessions · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 277

In message , JOHN wrote:

>> And the page is inaccurate. For example, it states that vaccines are
>> immune suppressing. That is false.
>
>
> http://whale.to/vaccines/autoimmune1.htm
>
> Mercury is hardly an immune booster:

Which has -- what? -- to do with vaccines, since they don't have
any mercury in them?

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JOHN · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 148

"D. C. Sessions" wrote in message @news.lumbercartel.com...
> In message , JOHN wrote:
>
>>> And the page is inaccurate. For example, it states that vaccines are
>>> immune suppressing. That is false.
>>
>>
>> http://whale.to/vaccines/autoimmune1.htm
>>
>> Mercury is hardly an immune booster:
>
> Which has -- what? -- to do with vaccines, since they don't have
> any mercury in them?
>
> --

"D. C. Sessions" wrote in message
news:...

> >

> > Mercury is hardly an immune booster:

>

> Which has -- what? -- to do with vaccines, since they don't have any

> mercury in them?

They did for the last 50 years or so, still do for the third world, and
still in flu vaccines, some tetanus etc
http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

and there may still eb trace amounts which they don't have to declare

And then we have all the other poisons Jeff calls 'immune boosters' like
aluminium etc

try and get the facts first

JOHN · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 148

"Jeff" wrote in message
news:%5_tj.5786$N95.5345@trnddc03...

>
> Childhood vaccines no longer have thimerasol in them.
>
> Jeff

Some still do http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

and all the third world vaccines

"Pichichero has served as consultant to the World Health Organization, and
his research has held considerable weight in the WHO decision to continue
using thimerosal in vaccines administered in nations outside the United
States."--- [Jan 2008] Babies excrete vaccine-mercury quicker than
originally thought

D. C. Sessions · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 277

In message , JOHN wrote:
> "D. C. Sessions" wrote in message
> @news.lumbercartel.com...
>> In message , JOHN wrote:

>>>> And the page is inaccurate. For example, it states that vaccines are
>>>> immune suppressing. That is false.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://whale.to/vaccines/autoimmune1.htm
>>>
>>> Mercury is hardly an immune booster:
>>
>> Which has -- what? -- to do with vaccines, since they don't have
>> any mercury in them?

> They did for the last 50 years or so, still do for the third world, and
> still in flu vaccines, some tetanus etc
> http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

Present tense, John -- I understand you have problems with the
concept, but for that remedial English is the answer and you're
on your own there.

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Jeff · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 582

JOHN wrote:
> "Jeff" wrote in message
> news:%5_tj.5786$N95.5345@trnddc03...
>
>> Childhood vaccines no longer have thimerasol in them.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> Some still do http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm
>
> and all the third world vaccines
>
> "Pichichero has served as consultant to the World Health Organization, and
> his research has held considerable weight in the WHO decision to continue
> using thimerosal in vaccines administered in nations outside the United
> States."--- [Jan 2008] Babies excrete vaccine-mercury quicker than
> originally thought

Thimerasol has been removed from all vaccines in the US for kids 6 and
under, except Influenza. http://www.fda.gov/CBER/vaccine/thimerosal.htm

As far as third world countries is concerned, the preservative is
needed, because refrigeration is not as readily available.

Jeff

Jeff · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 582

JOHN wrote:
> "D. C. Sessions" wrote in message
> @news.lumbercartel.com...
>> In message , JOHN wrote:
>>
>>>> And the page is inaccurate. For example, it states that vaccines are
>>>> immune suppressing. That is false.
>>>
>>> http://whale.to/vaccines/autoimmune1.htm
>>>
>>> Mercury is hardly an immune booster:
>> Which has -- what? -- to do with vaccines, since they don't have
>> any mercury in them?
>>
>> --
>
>
>
> "D. C. Sessions" wrote in message
> news:...
>
>
>>> Mercury is hardly an immune booster:
>
>
>> Which has -- what? -- to do with vaccines, since they don't have any
>
>> mercury in them?
>
> They did for the last 50 years or so, still do for the third world, and
> still in flu vaccines, some tetanus etc
> http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm
>
> and there may still eb trace amounts which they don't have to declare
>
> And then we have all the other poisons Jeff calls 'immune boosters' like
> aluminium etc
>
> try and get the facts first

And yet, you have never demonstrated that vaccines are dangerous. The
only reason why the influenza outbreak in San Diego isn't bigger is that
most of the population is vaccinated.

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_8281325

Vaccines are one of the greatest public health measures ever. Only clean
drinking water, sanitation and healthy food have saved more lives than
vaccines. Vaccines have eliminated polio from the western hemisphere and
eliminated smallpox everywhere. In addition, in the US, measles, mumps,
rubella, tetanus, diptheria, purtussis, HIB menigits, and other diseases
have been greatly reduced.

For accurate info on vaccines, go to www.cdc.gov.

Jeff

D. C. Sessions · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 277

In message , Myrl wrote:

> What is also interesting, if it is true about thimerosal being present
> in third world vaccines, is their rates of autism are actually lower
> than here in the United States.

So there *is* a connection -- mercury prevents autism!

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Jeff · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 582

Bee wrote:
> On Feb 17, 11:07 am, Jeff wrote:
>
>> For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> Now, why would anyone that doesn't trust our government, and the
> health care professionals that are "part of the problem, not the
> solution,"
> want to go to a government website?

Because it is an accurate site.

Jan Drew · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2522

"Jeff" wrote in message $N95.609@trnddc03...
> JOHN wrote:
>> Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
>> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/2/14/why-vaccines-aren-t-safe.aspx
>
> IMHO, Mercola is a scuzbucket.
>
> And the page is inaccurate. For example, it states that vaccines are
> immune suppressing. That is false. If you think that helping the immune
> system to recognize deadly germs so that it won't allow those organisms to
> reproduce is weakening the immune system, then you're an idiot.
>
> For accurate info on vaccines, go to www.cdc.gov.
>
> Jeff
>
Poor, Putz.

Real one on HealthFraud list: Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, M.D.
jeff...@juno.com
[2007] "Robert Watson" kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com
Jeff Utz jtest-u...@juno.com
Jeff Utz, M.D. jeff...@juno.com
Jeffrey P. Utz, M.D. jeff...@softhome.net Hence "Putz"
http://www.msu.edu/~utz/ u...@pilot.msu.edu
Jeffrey Peter, M.D. kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com
Wyle E. Coyote wyle_e_coyot...@hotmail.com
Jeff Utz kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com (Jan 2003)
Jeff jef...@pacbell.net
Jeff j...@hotmail.com (2007-2008)

Believe the CDC aand the Government....

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/VaccineResearcher.html

Vaccine Dangers and Vested Interests
A retired vaccine researcher goes public on what the pharmaceutical industry
and the health authorities don't want us to know: that vaccines are unsafe,
untested and one of the greatest frauds of our time.

Jan Drew · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2522

"Jeff" wrote in message @hotmail.com...
> JOHN wrote:
>> "D. C. Sessions" wrote in message
>> @news.lumbercartel.com...
>>> In message , JOHN wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And the page is inaccurate. For example, it states that vaccines are
>>>>> immune suppressing. That is false.
>>>>
>>>> http://whale.to/vaccines/autoimmune1.htm
>>>>
>>>> Mercury is hardly an immune booster:
>>> Which has -- what? -- to do with vaccines, since they don't have
>>> any mercury in them?
>>>
>>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> "D. C. Sessions" wrote in message
>> news:...
>>
>>
>>>> Mercury is hardly an immune booster:
>>
>>
>>> Which has -- what? -- to do with vaccines, since they don't have any
>>
>>> mercury in them?
>>
>> They did for the last 50 years or so, still do for the third world, and
>> still in flu vaccines, some tetanus etc
>> http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm
>>
>> and there may still eb trace amounts which they don't have to declare
>>
>> And then we have all the other poisons Jeff calls 'immune boosters' like
>> aluminium etc
>>
>> try and get the facts first
>
> And yet, you have never demonstrated that vaccines are dangerous.

Well, now...another blatant lie!

http://whale.to/vaccines/autoimmune1.htm

Where is your website, Putz??

The
> only reason why the influenza outbreak in San Diego isn't bigger is that
> most of the population is vaccinated.
>
> http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_8281325
>
> Vaccines are one of the greatest public health measures ever. Only clean
> drinking water, sanitation and healthy food have saved more lives than
> vaccines. Vaccines have eliminated polio from the western hemisphere and
> eliminated smallpox everywhere. In addition, in the US, measles, mumps,
> rubella, tetanus, diptheria, purtussis, HIB menigits, and other diseases
> have been greatly reduced.
>
> For accurate info on vaccines, go to www.cdc.gov.
>
> Jeff

Accurate??

LOL!!!

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/02/17/cdc_knew_mercury_in_vaccines_induces_autism.htm

Jan Drew · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2522

"Jeff" wrote in message $N95.1483@trnddc03...
> Bee wrote:
>> On Feb 17, 11:07 am, Jeff wrote:
>>
>>> For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>
>> Now, why would anyone that doesn't trust our government, and the
>> health care professionals that are "part of the problem, not the
>> solution,"
>> want to go to a government website?
>
> Because it is an accurate site.

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/02/17/cdc_knew_mercury_in_vaccines_induces_autism.htm

Jan Drew · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2522

"Mark Probert" wrote in message @n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 17, 10:42 pm, Jeff wrote:
> Bee wrote:
> > On Feb 17, 11:07 am, Jeff wrote:
>
> >> For accurate info on vaccines, go towww.cdc.gov.
>
> >> Jeff
>
> > Now, why would anyone that doesn't trust our government, and the
> > health care professionals that are "part of the problem, not the
> > solution,"
> > want to go to a government website?
>
> Because it is an accurate site.

Accuracy only confuses paranoids.

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/02/17/cdc_knew_mercury_in_vaccines_induces_autism.htm

Jeff · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 582

Jan Drew wrote:
>
> "Jeff" wrote in message
> $N95.609@trnddc03...
>> JOHN wrote:
>>> Video - Why Vaccines Aren't Safe - Mary Tocco, Michigan
>>> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/2/14/why-vaccines-aren-t-safe.aspx
>>>
>>
>> IMHO, Mercola is a scuzbucket.
>>
>> And the page is inaccurate. For example, it states that vaccines are
>> immune suppressing. That is false. If you think that helping the
>> immune system to recognize deadly germs so that it won't allow those
>> organisms to reproduce is weakening the immune system, then you're an
>> idiot.
>>
>> For accurate info on vaccines, go to www.cdc.gov.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
> Poor, Putz.

Nice name calling. In the future, it would be appreciated if you would
discuss the issue at hand rather than make personal, kindergarten-type
attacks.

Have a lovely day.

Jeff

> Real one on HealthFraud list: Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, M.D.
> jeff...@juno.com
> [2007] "Robert Watson" kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com
> Jeff Utz jtest-u...@juno.com
> Jeff Utz, M.D. jeff...@juno.com
> Jeffrey P. Utz, M.D. jeff...@softhome.net Hence "Putz"
> http://www.msu.edu/~utz/ u...@pilot.msu.edu
> Jeffrey Peter, M.D. kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com
> Wyle E. Coyote wyle_e_coyot...@hotmail.com
> Jeff Utz kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com (Jan 2003)
> Jeff jef...@pacbell.net
> Jeff j...@hotmail.com (2007-2008)
>
>
> Believe the CDC aand the Government....
>
> http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/VaccineResearcher.html
>
> Vaccine Dangers and Vested Interests
> A retired vaccine researcher goes public on what the pharmaceutical
> industry and the health authorities don't want us to know: that vaccines
> are unsafe, untested and one of the greatest frauds of our time.

The 'Vaccines are safe' lie the 200 year old lie. smallpox vax was killing 25,000 children in 1880, hardly safe! Eg the MMR is safe lie that they trot out most days.

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