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xkatx



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Milk with breast milk? Reply with quote

I'm just wondering...
DD2 is still nursing and still going strong. She's just about 16 months
now - wow, does time fly or what??
She currently nurses first thing in the morning, just before breakfast,
sometimes will nurse before her nap (often, though, she'll only go for a
couple minutes before nap and will nurse longer when she wakes up for her
nap), just before supper and then again at bed time. She sleeps through the
night and it's rare she'll wake up at night once she's down. She'll usually
go right back to sleep on her own within a few minutes if she does happen to
get up, and it's now only once in a blue moon that I'll bring her to bed
with us, and she nurses again and goes to sleep.
During the day, she will drink juice - I normally water it down - or water.
I have yet to give her cow's milk - she has been having milk in something
like oatmeal in the morning or if I make a soup with milk, she eats that and
has for a looong time now.
So, now, I am wondering... Does she need regular homo milk? With how she
nurses, would she be getting enough milk for her age? Obviously it's
impossible to tell how much breast milk she actually consumes as I have
never pumped (couldn't pump at all, actually) and well, I know it's really
impossible to tell how much a breastfed baby can get out of a breast, even
if a person does pump.

I'm just wondering if she's getting enough milk or not, or if she should be
drinking cow's milk. She pretty much refused a bottle right from day 1 and
has only had a boob. She won't take a bottle - wouldn't even dare to try
and offer her one at this age anyways - but drinks fine out of one of those
reusable 'juice boxes' - the rubbermaid ones with a straw or a regular cup
with help. I really don't know if she should be having regular milk along
with nursing still. She seems to have plenty of wet diapers, although I
think that's partly because of the water or juice she takes. I find that if
she doesn't have much water/juice in a day, she doesn't have very many wet
diapers. Her weight gain is good and so is her growth. She seems to be
picking little words up (mom, dad, bye, hi, uh-oh, etc) and seem to be just
fine.

Any words of advice, oh wise ones?

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Beth Kevles



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Milk with breast milk? Reply with quote

Hi --

The reasons to drink cow's milk have to do with calcium, protein and
fluid. Breastmilk contains all these, so the real question is, is your
daughter eating a varied and healthy diet that includes those things?
If she is, then it doesn't matter how much breastmilk she's getting. If
she's not, then you need to move her towards a varied and healthy diet.
At this age, breastmilk isn't the mainstay of her diet, just a small
nutritional component. (There are reasons other than mere nutrition to
nurse, but your daughter is clearly nursing enough for those other
needs.)

The main reason to introduce cow's milk at your daughter's age is to get
her used to the flavor. My older son had trouble digesting it until he
was 7 or 8, and to this day, although he happily consumes many milk
products, he refuses to drink cow's milk. Not even flavored with
chocolate!

I hope these thoughts help,
--Beth Kevles
bethkevles@gmail.PUT-THE-COM-HERE
http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic
Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the GMAIL one if you would
like me to reply.
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Irrational Number



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: Milk with breast milk? Reply with quote

xkatx wrote:
>
> I'm just wondering if she's getting enough milk or not, or if she should be
> drinking cow's milk.

A child is weaned from breastmilk to a well-balanced
diet. Cow's milk is a convenient source of protein
and calcium, but it is not the only source. If she
eats enough broccoli, other green leafy vegetables,
and protein sources, she never really *needs* cow's
milk.

-- Anita --
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xkatx



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Milk with breast milk? Reply with quote

"Beth Kevles" wrote in message $0$310$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...
>
> Hi --
>
> The reasons to drink cow's milk have to do with calcium, protein and
> fluid. Breastmilk contains all these, so the real question is, is your
> daughter eating a varied and healthy diet that includes those things?
> If she is, then it doesn't matter how much breastmilk she's getting. If
> she's not, then you need to move her towards a varied and healthy diet.
> At this age, breastmilk isn't the mainstay of her diet, just a small
> nutritional component. (There are reasons other than mere nutrition to
> nurse, but your daughter is clearly nursing enough for those other
> needs.)

She does eat a fairly balanced and healthy diet... She's not picky and will
pretty much eat anything and everything. She is offered a good variety, and
her diet doesn't revolve around complete junk. She's not at the age where
she will argue and fight over junk food and treats and is just as happy to
munch on, say, an arrowroot cookie or cracker as some potato chips or
something.

> The main reason to introduce cow's milk at your daughter's age is to get
> her used to the flavor. My older son had trouble digesting it until he
> was 7 or 8, and to this day, although he happily consumes many milk
> products, he refuses to drink cow's milk. Not even flavored with
> chocolate!

So offering cow's milk at this age isn't really going to bother her or
anything, and it shouldn't have a huge impact on her nursing either?
(obviously generally speaking)

> I hope these thoughts help,
> --Beth Kevles

Yes, they do. Thanks!

> bethkevles@gmail.PUT-THE-COM-HERE
> http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic
> Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
> advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.
>
> NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the GMAIL one if you would
> like me to reply.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Milk with breast milk? Reply with quote

"Irrational Number" wrote in message @corp.supernews.com...
> xkatx wrote:
>>
>> I'm just wondering if she's getting enough milk or not, or if she should
>> be drinking cow's milk.
>
> A child is weaned from breastmilk to a well-balanced
> diet. Cow's milk is a convenient source of protein
> and calcium, but it is not the only source. If she
> eats enough broccoli, other green leafy vegetables,
> and protein sources, she never really *needs* cow's
> milk.
>
> -- Anita --

She does like broccoli, to name one. And also does like salads - she likes
and will eat lettuce, but I find she will choke on it sometimes. Maybe
because it's kind of flat and thin, although I do chop it up in the food
chopper and let her spoon it in her mouth as more of a chunky mush than flat
and leafy. DS is the only one that won't eat broccoli now, so I do make
broccoli of some sort fairly often (steamed with cheese, in stir-frys, fresh
and raw as snacks and so on) and I could just about live off of caesar
salads, so a salad will often accompany a few different suppers.
With all that said, it sounds like she can have regular milk now, or not,
just so long as she does have a healthy diet.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Milk with breast milk? Reply with quote

xkatx wrote:
>
> With all that said, it sounds like she can have regular milk now, or not,
> just so long as she does have a healthy diet.

Exactly!

-- Anita --

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